I have totally changed my motor mount scheme. The crossmember that I did for the 230 engine, wont work for the new 292 because the right side motor mount is in a different location on this motor (I decided it must
be due to the long stroke causing crank to cam clearance issues which force the fuel pump to move right to where the motor mount should have been). I made some flanges that weld into the truck frame to
hold pretty much any kind of motor mount that I am likely to need.
Now I can bolt a custom motor mount bracket to my frame, which I think is the way that GM has managed this problem for decades. Welding on the frame is a lot different than welding on the bench. When I am
welding brackets and frame members on the welding table, I can turn
them any way I want to get better access. On the truck frame, It is
were it is, and I have to deal with it. If that means standing on my
head and welding with one hand, then that's what I have to do. Some of
the welds are kind of ugly.
Which brings me to welding with holes in your jeans. DONT DO IT. I have
gotten a few stings in the past from welding sparks finding the hole,
but this is the first (and last) time that I have had a large bead of
weld spatter roll down inside my jeans. It was hot enough to burn a
hole thru my jeans, from the inside out! It left a nasty burn on my leg
too. Monica wants
me give up on the whole thing and just go watch sports TV all day like a
normal guy.
I made my own motor mount perches from some of the box tubing left over from my crossmember.
This is an earlier picture, but shows how the perch will fit to a "Camaro
style" motor mount. I call this a Camaro motor mount because they were
used on my 68 Camaro, but they were used on tons of other cars
too.
Still paying attention? This is where all the pieces come together. Frame to flange
to plate to cardboard to perch to motor mount to bracket to engine.
Wait, was that cardboard?
I used cardboard templates for left and right motor mount frame brackets. The next step
is to copy these into steel, and hope that they still fit. Because the
cardboard is relatively flexable, it can be "pushed" into fitting well,
without even realizing that you are pushing. Steel is not so forgiving,
and can require a lot of widdling to make it fit right
I cut out the pieces, then clamped them in place on the truck, then tack welded them.
Then take them back off and finish the welding. Heat distortion isnt so much
of a problem with the MIG welder, things tend to stay pretty straight.
Then finally paint them and put them back on the truck. They came out pretty good actually, they fit nice. But the shiny paint really shows off my amateur welding skills.
Motor mounts are done. Next!
This documents the restoration and modifications of my 1941 Chevy truck, so that hopefully other old truck enthusiasts can benefit from my experience and mistakes.
Thursday, September 26, 2013
Sunday, February 24, 2013
Adding a rear end drain plug
Most older car rear ends dont have drain plugs. The manufacturers
figured that the oil lasts for the "life" of the car, and if you really
want to change the oil, you can just take the rear cover off and deal
with the mess. But these days, if you own a classic car, you probably
expect it to last forever and you intend to change the rear end oil
every 5 years or so. And you dont want it to be a big messy operation.
So how do you add a drain plug? The first thing that I wanted to do was drill a hole through the bottom of the cast iron housing, and tap it for a big pipe plug, similar to the filer plug. But then I got to thinking about how difficult that metal might be to drill and tap, and I dont even own a pipe tap bigger than 1/4 inch, and I am not sure the casing is thick enough where I would need to drill, etc. The very bottom of the housing is not a good place for a plug anyway, because it would tend to get hit by stuff. If you look at modern rear ends, they either offset the drain plug away from the very bottom, or they put a big heavy guard around it for protection
Then I came up with another idea...
How about just adding the plug to the bottom of the back cover? You might not be able to get the last 1/2 cup of oil out, but you will get the other 2-1/2 quarts. And it is a low risk operation. If I totally screw this up, I can just get a new cover.
The cover itself is too thin to safely hold a thread, so it needs additional metal added. I used a 2 inch circle that I cut from a piece of 1/4 inch steel with a hole saw. That is an effort in itself, but with a quality hole saw and a drill press, and much patience, I got all the way thru. The plug shown here is a standard 1/2-20 oil drain plug used on most American made engines. Normally you would use a larger plug for 90W oil, but there are two advantages to this type of plug: it is easily obtained with a magnetic end (to collect metal fragments), and I already have a 1/2-20 tap. The oil might drain kind of slow, but it will drain.
One thing that I consider important is to tap the threads perfectly perpendicular to the seal surface. Otherwise it will be putting more pressure on one side of the seal than the other, and might leak. This is easily done on a drill press, by using the drill press to guide the tap. You still turn the tap by hand, but use the drill press as a guide to keep the tap straight. Another recommendation: don't fully tap the hole. This piece will need to be welded to the cover, and doing so could cause minor damage to the threads, so plan on finishing the threads after the welding. You still want to start the threads now, while it is easy to get the tap started straight, but stop after the tap is far enough in to align itself well. You can then come back later and finish the threads without needing the guide.
I cut the bottom edge off and beveled one side so that I can get as close as possible to the bottom of the cover. I milled both sides of this piece, just because I could, but that is overkill. Hand filing would work just fine. You need the outside to be flat enough for a good seal, and you need the inside to be clean enough for a good weld.
A few things to consider when placing the hole location:
One mistake I made here was to make the hole too small. I drilled just slightly larger than 1/2 inch, but dispite my best efforts in aligning the pieces, I hit the edge of this hole when I tried to finish tapping the threads. I had to cut the hole a little bigger with a die grinder to let the tap go all the way thru. Make your hole at least 5/8.
Use an old bolt and some washers to hold the threaded piece in place. This bolt may be ruined by the heat, so if you have some old junk bolts around, this is a great place to use one. The blue ink mark on the cover is my way of aligning the threaded piece over the hole. It didnt work that well, hopefully you have a better way.
I brazed this piece on, but I think MIG welding would have worked just as well. The MIG might actually cause less heat distortion. You can see how far out the paint burned from the brazing. MIG wouldn't have done that. Make sure you go completely all the way around, with no holes or gaps that might leak.
Clean it up and finish tapping the threads. You do have flux removal to deal with when brazing, or weld splatter when arc welding. Choose your poison.
This is how it looks from the inside. You really can't get much closer to the bottom. This is a Mr.Gasket #15 magnetic drain plug sticking through.
A new drain plug will come with a plastic washer gasket (bright white in this picture). This works great for engine oil. but for a rear end gasket that might not be removed for 10 years, I prefer the old copper gaskets: they will never crack.
I haven't put any oil in this yet, but is sure looks like it is going to work.
So how do you add a drain plug? The first thing that I wanted to do was drill a hole through the bottom of the cast iron housing, and tap it for a big pipe plug, similar to the filer plug. But then I got to thinking about how difficult that metal might be to drill and tap, and I dont even own a pipe tap bigger than 1/4 inch, and I am not sure the casing is thick enough where I would need to drill, etc. The very bottom of the housing is not a good place for a plug anyway, because it would tend to get hit by stuff. If you look at modern rear ends, they either offset the drain plug away from the very bottom, or they put a big heavy guard around it for protection
Then I came up with another idea...
How about just adding the plug to the bottom of the back cover? You might not be able to get the last 1/2 cup of oil out, but you will get the other 2-1/2 quarts. And it is a low risk operation. If I totally screw this up, I can just get a new cover.
The cover itself is too thin to safely hold a thread, so it needs additional metal added. I used a 2 inch circle that I cut from a piece of 1/4 inch steel with a hole saw. That is an effort in itself, but with a quality hole saw and a drill press, and much patience, I got all the way thru. The plug shown here is a standard 1/2-20 oil drain plug used on most American made engines. Normally you would use a larger plug for 90W oil, but there are two advantages to this type of plug: it is easily obtained with a magnetic end (to collect metal fragments), and I already have a 1/2-20 tap. The oil might drain kind of slow, but it will drain.
One thing that I consider important is to tap the threads perfectly perpendicular to the seal surface. Otherwise it will be putting more pressure on one side of the seal than the other, and might leak. This is easily done on a drill press, by using the drill press to guide the tap. You still turn the tap by hand, but use the drill press as a guide to keep the tap straight. Another recommendation: don't fully tap the hole. This piece will need to be welded to the cover, and doing so could cause minor damage to the threads, so plan on finishing the threads after the welding. You still want to start the threads now, while it is easy to get the tap started straight, but stop after the tap is far enough in to align itself well. You can then come back later and finish the threads without needing the guide.
I cut the bottom edge off and beveled one side so that I can get as close as possible to the bottom of the cover. I milled both sides of this piece, just because I could, but that is overkill. Hand filing would work just fine. You need the outside to be flat enough for a good seal, and you need the inside to be clean enough for a good weld.
A few things to consider when placing the hole location:
- Miss the ring gear! I dont know how much clearance there is between the ring gear and the cover, and there is no reason to find out. The non-ring gear side has lots of room.
- Dont put it too close to a cover bolt, or you will likely have interference issues when you put everything back together.
- Be sure which end is up! Most covers have a definite top and bottom. If you put the plug on the wrong end, it will ruin you day.
One mistake I made here was to make the hole too small. I drilled just slightly larger than 1/2 inch, but dispite my best efforts in aligning the pieces, I hit the edge of this hole when I tried to finish tapping the threads. I had to cut the hole a little bigger with a die grinder to let the tap go all the way thru. Make your hole at least 5/8.
Use an old bolt and some washers to hold the threaded piece in place. This bolt may be ruined by the heat, so if you have some old junk bolts around, this is a great place to use one. The blue ink mark on the cover is my way of aligning the threaded piece over the hole. It didnt work that well, hopefully you have a better way.
I brazed this piece on, but I think MIG welding would have worked just as well. The MIG might actually cause less heat distortion. You can see how far out the paint burned from the brazing. MIG wouldn't have done that. Make sure you go completely all the way around, with no holes or gaps that might leak.
Clean it up and finish tapping the threads. You do have flux removal to deal with when brazing, or weld splatter when arc welding. Choose your poison.
This is how it looks from the inside. You really can't get much closer to the bottom. This is a Mr.Gasket #15 magnetic drain plug sticking through.
A new drain plug will come with a plastic washer gasket (bright white in this picture). This works great for engine oil. but for a rear end gasket that might not be removed for 10 years, I prefer the old copper gaskets: they will never crack.
I haven't put any oil in this yet, but is sure looks like it is going to work.
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